http://www.recoveryview.com/2010/02/spiritual-transformation-or-stagnation-the-story-of-the-5-m%e2%80%99s/ An online journal for professionals in the fields of Addiction and Behavioral Health. Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:31:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://www.recoveryview.com/2010/02/spiritual-transformation-or-stagnation-the-story-of-the-5-m%e2%80%99s/comment-page-1/#comment-1827 david westcott Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:59:25 +0000 http://recoveryview.com/?p=504#comment-1827 Bill, I have been involed with AA for 29 years and of course have seen many changes. I thank you for this article! It was well written in that it spoke directly to the way AA meetings and the AA fellowship has changed. In my area AA has become very academic and didactic. My sponser and I have talked about it at length. (he has 38 years in AA) It almost appears that the current AA is trying to crank out good AA members. Perhaps another way to put it is looking at those in attendence as just another coal to keep the AA fire burning. The AA Machine is a good description for this. Based on what I've read and through my own experiences AA was designed for people to recover to a place where they become usefully whole. A place where a peson can live a very normal life despite being a recovering/recovered alcoholic. In working through the steps myself, I discovered I needed to go beyond the 12 steps in order to contniue my spiritual growth. I continue to attend AA meetings and have a good home group. I seldom go to meetings because "i need a meeting". I most often go as a reminder of where I have been and to try to help others that may be suffering. I wonder what your thoughts are on how an idividual can promote the original message in a way that people can actually hear it? David Westcott Bill,
I have been involed with AA for 29 years and of course have seen many changes.
I thank you for this article! It was well written in that it spoke directly to the way AA meetings and the AA fellowship has changed. In my area AA has become very academic and didactic. My sponser and I have talked about it at length. (he has 38 years in AA) It almost appears that the current AA is trying to crank out good AA members. Perhaps another way to put it is looking at those in attendence as just another coal to keep the AA fire burning. The AA Machine is a good description for this. Based on what I’ve read and through my own experiences AA was designed for people to recover to a place where they become usefully whole. A place where a peson can live a very normal life despite being a recovering/recovered alcoholic. In working through the steps myself, I discovered I needed to go beyond the 12 steps in order to contniue my spiritual growth. I continue to attend AA meetings and have a good home group. I seldom go to meetings because “i need a meeting”. I most often go as a reminder of where I have been and to try to help others that may be suffering. I wonder what your thoughts are on how an idividual can promote the original message in a way that people can actually hear it?
David Westcott

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